Thursday, December 8, 2011

BSBAA in Uni. of philippines? or ateneo?

Should i go to UP for BSBAA or ateneo (idk what the equivalent of BSBAA program is in ateneo)





I'm specifically looking at which college is going to help me get into american universities for my MBA because that is where I plan to work unless some rich multi-national company offers me really good job in philippines.





my other questions would be..


I was looking into the curriculum for management in ateneo and the BSBAA is UP, i've realized that UP is more focused on the degree. The only problem with ateneo was that they require theo and philosophy classes, i know it helps and broadens your perpectives BUT i dont think these classes transfer to American curriculum.


It looked like UP offered more courses on the actual major so does that mean UP graduates know more??





another would be..


Am i allowed to choose my classes in both UP or Ateneo? or is there a SET schedule of courses that I am required to take. Are there anything like electives?? like if you wished t branch out of your major?





last one lol..


in ateneo.. if i was planning to take BS in management, how would i take a minor in accountancy as well, how would that fit into my schedule? would i be taking summer classes or prolong my stay as a college student?





last last one..


are there different times of classes? or do they all start at 7:30





pls help, dnt care if you dont answer all of them. I am desperate for answers D: T%26gt;T|||Both the BAA program at UP Diliman and the BS Management program at AdMU will get you into a top graduate business school in the US or UK provided you obtain the ff:



1. You graduate at the top of your class or with honors

2. You then have a solid work experience at a top 1000 companies in the Philippines or Fortune 500 in the US

3. You can secure an excellent recommendation from your former instructors or professors or supervisor at your company

4. Manage to score 710 or higher on the GMAT



The current class at Harvard Business School, for example, includes 4 UP Diliman graduates and 1 Ateneo de Manila graduate. Check out this website:



http://www.hbs.edu/mba/perspectives/unde鈥?/a>







Between UP Diliman's BAA and AdMU's BS in Management, I'd pick the BAA at UP Diliman in a heartbeat. Not only is UP more prestigious as an institution than Ateneo is, the BAA program is also more respected and well-regarded than the Management program at Ateneo, and most top employers in the Philippines are aware that the BAA program at UP Diliman is a tough program to get onto, and thus, only the best of the best students in the country are admitted.



The BAA program has almost 100% passing rate in the accountancy board exam (CPA), and in bettered by no other school in the Philippines.



The BAA program has produced some of the most successful Filipinos, including senators, congressmen, big time entrepreneurs, CEO, Investment Bankers at Goldman Sachs, Hedge Fund Managers, Management Consultants at McKinsey, Secretaries of Central bank of the Philippines, Secretaries of Budget and Finance of the Philippines, and several Chairman of the Boards of the most successful companies in the Philippines. It's alumni roaster is next to none.



As to the flexibility of the program, you enter onto the program as a block section. You will be given a time slot that usually starts at 8:30am and ends at 4:30pm with an hour and a half as an in-between break or lunch. (UP Diliman does not have classes on Mondays. many students use that day for research.) On your 2nd year, you choose your own schedule -- sort of like you're shopping for the subjects that you want to enroll and most students normally chose subjects based on the faculty they like. The GE program at UP Diliman is an open slot -- so it's up to you which subject you will get to comply the number of units required by the Commission on Higher Education to graduate. In other words, UP Diliman's undergraduate programs are generally very flexible. You can shift out anytime you want, if after a few semesters you finally realized that BAA is not what you really want to major in.



The BAA program is a 5-year program and it is a double major program, one of which must be accountancy. The other one would be up to you, but many would major in finance, if not marketing or entrepreneurship. You can also utilize your electives for economics, or mathematics or statistics, if you love crunching numbers.



But again, either program (BAA or BS Management) will get you into a top graduate business school. The advantage of BAA over the Ateneo program is that you are most likely assured of having a high-paying job after you graduate from the program, since CPAs are highly paid in the Philippines and are quite in-demand these days. But then again, a lot of BAA I know end up working as Finance Analysts at major banks such as Citi, HSBC, Metro, or BDO too.|||The equivalent of UP's BS Business Administration and Accountancy is the Ateneo's Management Engineering in terms of prestige. On one hand, BSBAA crops out the student's entrepreneurial skills (I think) and business management skills (kinda the same) mixed with accounting, which is quite crucial for businesses. On the other hand, Management Engineering is more on being a CEO of a company or any kind of business executive. Management Engineering also has entrepreneurial skills however it may somehow be less focused than in BSBAA. Ateneo business courses doesn't include accounting because such loads of information may be possible to have little significance to success. However, Ateneo still has accounting as a subject in the sophomore year. (Take note that accounting here in the Ateneo is already on the intermediate difficulty, or to put it in other terms, it's not basic like in UST's first year accounting)





If you're really smart, it's best to try getting financial aid from American Universities. Studying in the United States will be beneficial to you as it trains you to be independent (you're all by yourself) and to be diligent in your studies. Great examples are University of Michigan (high rate of financial aid), Harvard College, University of Pennsylvania. Actually, a lot of US universities are great. Singapore is great too. What I heard, in Ateneo, they give you about 150 - 500k per month starting salary if you have Latin Honors (aka Summa, Magna, etc.) Normally, you get 25k and above starting salary if you're a normal graduate from the Ateneo. In Harvard, normal graduates get 25k. . . . in dollars.... So in our case, it will be 1,125,000 pesos when multiplied by 45. I guess it's best to be in US universities. However, the numbers that I told you is only hearsay and should not be taken officially. Also, a friend and fellow student of mine, who also lived in the United States for quite some time, told me that Philippine universities (particularly Ateneo and UP) are much harder than most universities in the US. They're just not credited by university rank(er)s =D and by many companies.





I don't think Theo and philosophy will give you a hard time, i think it's FILIPINO. :| (remembering the bitter experiences with that subject) The two subjects mentioned may help with your success in life as it gives you the critical thinking you need to have a sharp and ready mind for important business decisions. So, I treat it as a blessing from the Ateneo.





Freshman year - a bit like that, start 7 30 or 7 or 8 30, depends if you get lucky or not.





I'm a freshman in the Ateneo de Manila University who is both applying for aid and transfer to a US or SG school and shifting from Management to Management Engineering.





Lastly, try not to get Management itself. It's a basic course. For example, BS Legal Management, has all the subjects management has however it also has more courses about Law. (do not take this as a prelaw) Take BS Management Engineering Double Major Applied Mathematics, Master in Mathematical Finance. BS ME and BSM AMF are by far the two most prestigious courses that doesn't have a low retention rate like BS Management Honors.

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